on the smaller builds, the boyesen reeds perform just as good as VF. Some reeds on stock cages actually had a better curve. once the motor gets more high strung the VF starts to pull away. I have used Power reeds, pro series reeds, Pyramid cages, chariot cages, VF1,2, and 3's and on the stockish motors I prefer the pro-series reeds on stock cages or chariot cages. I use chariot cages on everything other then my big bike which has VF3's.