rjvoight

Bump...... to the first page, the rest of this thred got a little nasty.....I trust everyone is doing well and has a great weekend. Keep the "twins" singing on the dunes, I notice more and more, a decline in the number of 'shees on the dunes, but we know! Stay Strong Everyone!

SEAHAWKS

yeah, just not as fast because we are not answering the same questions over and over again.

Yep. Happy Thanksgiving everyone

How many books are in the bible? How many authors wrote the bible? Where did those authors get the information? What is the Bible about? Who are the muslim people decendents of? My point is this, your University of You Tube Education has left out some very important points that will require you to do some research on your own. I am choosing to believe you are smarter than that and will look a little deeper into the subject. RJV

Dogism: you feed me you love me you pet me you care for me you protect me You must be god Catism: you feed me you love me you pet me you care for me you protect me I must be god Funny, thought provoking if you allow it to be.

A lot of these have been covered in previous posts by me way back in this thread. I will probabally cut and paste those if you don't want to dig for them. You do have a couple new ones though and that is cool, the new testament quotes. I am heading to the coast today with the girl and the wife so I will get back to this in a day or so. Any of you other guys that want to hit on these go right ahead. Have a good weekend- RJV

HD, the only thing I will "defend" myself on is where you said there are parts of the Bible I ignore....I think I have answered all of your questions in regard to Bible passages........if not let me know and I will explain......I dont have all the answeres and I know that. Later RJV

I am not aware of any other god that sacrificed themselves so that we humans could not only communicate with but spend eternity in the presence of God. I do not know of any other god that was crucified for a purpose, to pay for the sins of all humans, and then defeated death. There are hundreds if not thousands of "g"ods out there and there probabally is some similar story but I am not personally aware of it. Of course then there is personal life experiance that comes into play for many of us. The problem you run into is you will not accept the Bible as a valid source of information. At the same time, any scientific theory that would lend credibility to the Bible is rejected. Yet you seem to accept any scientific theory that would contradict the Bible. Why is one theory better than the other? Another issue is many people do not understand the Bible, not because they can't but because they won't. It is frustrating to me when someone latches onto a single passage and takes it out of context. You and I did a lot of Bible Context stuff early in this thread and I know it was making sense to you then, even though you did not agree with it. I could go on with little thoughts like that but I know it is not what you are looking for. I assure you I have no battle in regard to the existance of God, who Jesus was and what he did. I do battle with the same things every other person does as far as greed, lust, selfishness etc. I also deal with frustration, pain, sadness and the other day to day crap that floats around in this world. I believe you think it is a sign of weakness to trust that God is in control. But please understand that just because I believe God is in control that I just sit around doing nothing. I work, play, love etc. It is just that when hard times come I know that there is a bigger picture. A lot of times I learn something through the hard times. It forces me to grow and I am a better more rounded person when I come out on the other side. It is my opinion that sometimes the hard times are the only way God can get a hold of us and make us deal with whatever problem we have. Any way, long post and I most definately am rambling on. If you read this far know that I am not trying to jack you up. Maybe trying to get you to open your mind a bit to at least understand more completely what you are choosing to reject. Take it easy, ride safe. RJV That was funny stuff!

HD, I had a theory about this thread that I posted back on 10-06-2006. I was just wondering if you ever read it or thought about what I said?

Dude, there is a line man. Shock value has its place but that is BS.

You are actually just moving in a circle.....like a rat in a cage...... a hampster on a wheel......it is actually almost sad. And dude, you don't answer questions. You are good at asking, not so good at listening and really struggle to answer. No big deal though. RJV

I have another view on that.....you are doing an awesome job keeping people on this thread. But let us look at how God is using you. Basically you have taken every Christian on here and some who are not and made them research their own beliefs. You have caused them to openly identify with Christ. You have caused us all to grow in our faith. Especially earlier in the thread when you were misquoting the Bible and many of us picked up our Bibles and researched your claims and posted them here for you in an attempt to educate you. So it did nothing for you but it caused each one of us to grow as well as got the word out to others who are curious about my faith. This thread is not here by chance, God put you here and everyone of us who have been replying and following the thread. HD, you see even when you think you are making us look bad.....God is so much bigger you can't mess up his plan. You are part of his plan even if you don't want to be. I wonder how God would use you if you submitted yourself to him. I wonder what kind of difference you could really make in this world, what kind of impact player you could really be. I hope someday we all find out. Think on that dude....... Respectfully- RJV