PlaynSand Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 A friend gave me a couple of plugs to try out in the banshee, I am a little afraid to try them . Does any one know any thing about these ? Champion RL85G I went to the parts store and was told they are an industrial plug and they wanted $25 a piece for them!! My BR8ES plugs are working fine , just wondering about these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I dunno man. But hell, I'd just stick with your NGK's...you could replace them nearly 6 times for the price you'd pay for a set of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brock_fuzzy_69 Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 if i get a chance i can go to the local parts store he will let me flip throught he ngk book and see if that plug cross refrences to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 I started using the BR8IEX, Iridium version of the BR8ES. Someone told me the Iridiums would spark a little hotter and help burn more fuel. I don't if thats true or not, but it does seem to start easier when cold. I run Castor 927 and in the winter it likes to try to seperate and if its really cold it will see a really rich mixture at the bottom of the tank. I shake it a little and that helps and once it warms up its fine. The Iridium plugs help burn the oil off the plug and help keeps from fouling. Try them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Interesting....where'd you get them at & how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 First off, I got that backwards, as I always do. Its BR8EIX. I bought them at O'Reillys for a whopping $7 bucks a plug. I was having trouble with the smoking at cold start (mainly due to the seperation of the Castro 927 oil at cold temps). My friend (and a Yamaha tech) told me to start using the Iridium plug and it will help burn more oil off in a rich mixture, plus spark hotter and run better. I've never been a fan of the Splitfire crap or all the other catchy plugs. I was pretty hesitant, but since my tech told me to use them (and he's against the catchy crap) I tried them. I honestly can tell a difference in cold start and seems to sound stronger. In the winter, with this oil problem, its 8 to 10 kicks to start cold, now to 3 or 4. It always has started on first or second in the summer, and always first when warm. Just in the winter this oil sits in the bottom and gets sucked in first. NGK's BR8EIX page Here's a quote from the NGK site: Iridium is a precious metal that is 6 times harder and 8 times stronger than platinum, it has a 1,200(=F) higher melting point than platinum and conducts electricity better. This makes it possible to create the finest wire center electrode ever. Prior till now, platinum had been favored for long life or performance spark plugs due to its high melting point, also the technology did not exist to machine and bond iridium on a spark plug electrode(at least in a cost effective manner). Iridium industrial spark plugs have been around for years, but still sells for over a hundred dollars per plug. Just now is the technology available to effectively use iridium in a spark plug for automotive applications. The strength, hardness and high melting point of iridium allows NGK to manufacture there iridium ultra-fine wire center electrode to 0.7mm. One of the finest firing points in the industry! (Thus far there has been no problems reported regarding use of iridium plugs with nitrous oxide.) Try them out, I think their worth the extra tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Funny, here's a listing of cars they fit: NGK - br8eix Automotive Fitment: Vehicle Displacement Engine VIN FERRARI 400I (1985) 4.8 V12 FERRARI 400I (1984) 4.8 V12 FERRARI 400I (1983) 4.8 V12 FERRARI 400I (1982) 4.8 V12 FERRARI 512 BBI (1985) 4.9 H12 FERRARI 512 BBI (1984) 4.9 H12 FERRARI 512 BBI (1983) 4.9 V12 FERRARI 512 BBI (1982) 4.9 H12 FERRARI 512 BBI (1981) 4.9 H12 LAMBORGHINI COUNTACH (1985) 4.8 V12 LAMBORGHINI COUNTACH (1984) 4.8 V12 LAMBORGHINI COUNTACH (1983) 4.8 V12 LAMBORGHINI COUNTACH (1982) 4.8 V12 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1988) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1987) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1986) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1985) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1984) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1983) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1982) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI JALPA (1981) 3.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI SILHOUETTE (1977) 3 V8 LAMBORGHINI SILHOUETTE (1976) 3 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P200 (1976) 2 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P200 (1975) 2 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P200 (1974) 2 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P250 (1976) 2.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P250 (1975) 2.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P250 (1974) 2.5 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P300 (1976) 3 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P300 (1975) 3 V8 LAMBORGHINI URRACO P300 (1974) 3 V8 PORSCHE 911 (1968) 2 H6 PORSCHE 911 E (1971) 2.2 H6 PORSCHE 911 E (1970) 2.2 H6 PORSCHE 911 L (1968) 2 H6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledofthezep Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Kickass, thanks man. I'm in the same boat as you...cold weather/castor927...but I've never had problems getting it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 This is my first winter using this oil, I started using this summer. So, I'm not really used to dealing with this type of oil. I've always used full synthetics. I like it, but I'm not sure if its the jetting, fuel ratio, or oil seperation. My friend/tech tells me its the oil, and it does seem to clear when warm, so I deal with it. It starts fine, and runs fine, just needs a few kicks to blow the oil out I guess. It also spits oil somewhat at startup and that goes away when warmed also. I guess its the oil. I'm using a 32:1 ratio, and I'm thinking of going to a 36:1 or 40:1 for the rest of the winter. Ledofthezep, do you notice any excess smoking when cold, or do you have any issues with the oil in cold weather, it sounds like it starts fine. I've considered switching oils, but overall I really like this oil. What mixture are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman121383 Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 thats funny how they fit ferrari's and lamborghini's and porsche's. my dad told me my banshee sounds like a ferrari when my toomey's wind out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tats4life Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 In the winter i run 40:1 and the summer run 36:1 still a little rich but i never seem to have to change my jetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 i think with the 927 you have to ignore the smoke, the shit seperates but lubes real good, if it runs good thats all that matters, read your plugs and go from there, my bike smokes with it also and im at about 45:1...... this summer it will burn cleaner, just make sure and turn off your gas when done riding and let it idle till it dies and before you turn your gas on shake the living shit out of her, so you dont end up with syrup in your float bowls.......you'll also get crap coming out of your stingers, id stay closer to 40:1 i think its good for up to 50:1?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001SSTBanshee Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 just make sure and turn off your gas when done riding and let it idle till it dies and before you turn your gas on shake the living shit out of her, so you dont end up with syrup in your float bowls...... Deuce, That gas (gas oil mix) is you lubrication, too. What about wear and tear on the dry rings when you let it run all the way out? (even if it is only a few strokes) Just a thought??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 just make sure and turn off your gas when done riding and let it idle till it dies and before you turn your gas on shake the living shit out of her, so you dont end up with syrup in your float bowls...... Deuce, That gas (gas oil mix) is you lubrication, too. What about wear and tear on the dry rings when you let it run all the way out? (even if it is only a few strokes) Just a thought??? thats the first thing i thought also, but the 927 leaves a pretty good film and it will run for a couple minutes then just die, so its really only not getting fuel for prabally a half dozen strokes and i do let it idle, not try to rev it dry...... when i start it up i turn on my fuel and choke and boot it a few times slow to kinda prime the pump so to speak, then turn the key on and one solid boot and its running, it is a pain in the ass but the 927 separates and its been below freezing at night here and its way less hassle than draining your floats before you try to fire it up everytime you wanna ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 In the winter i run 40:1 and the summer run 36:1 still a little rich but i never seem to have to change my jetting. I run 32:1 in the summer, and I've got a 36:1 in right now, but my next tank will be 40:1. We'll see how that goes. I may start running 36:1 in the summer also. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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