ninjamaster Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 I got smoked by a stock Cr125 and even more smoked by an older Cr125 with a pipe. I want to be able to beat a Cr250 and modified 125. What mods should I do? This is still going to be my trail quad. I just like to play race on the trails. I am not even close to a drag racer. Would a tomey T5 or T6 give me the extra power to beat him? I want to do minor mods that dont take away from reliability and I dont want more matience. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty1 Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 good luck on the 250 or the 125 in some cases if they can ride you have no chance unless your willing to shell some cash out... i have a hard time with 250s in most cases with my bike if they can ride i get killed. dirt bikes are wicked fast and the weight to power ratio is way better than a banshee's and no you aint beatin them with just pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjamaster Posted November 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Its weird. I had a yamaha big wheel 350 which is like a honda fat cat. A yamaha warior smoked me. I smoked a blaster. How are dirt bikes so fast? They dont really have the traction. I remember if I hit my big wheel all the way I would spin out and shake side to side. I seen some one do this on a Cr125. How can they get the power to the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illboogie Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 ive beaten a modded kx 125 and i got a stock banshee you shouldnt have trouble with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMOONEY Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 i once raced this cr500, it was funny as hell i was riding slow (letting my bike warm up) when this dumb ass guy rides next to me, i was on my way to the hill, hes all nodding his head like he wants to race, i starting laughing, he yells come on man lets do it. i was like hold on i shift into 2nd gear nod back keep in miind we are cruising in 2nd gear about 1/2 throttle, i am still laughing and i say alrighty man on your move, he takes off i dumb the clutch, pull a good wheelie by the time i hit 3rd gear he was about 2 bikes back, i hit 4th another 2 bikes, and so on, i look back he is turning around i (being the smart ass i am) start waving at the guy and laughing even harder. it was great i have never been beat by a dirtbike. i raced a build cr250 on the street and layed into him by about 6 or so bikes. keep in mind mine's not stock but you get the point, mine still runs on gas by the way. so its pretty easy to build a banshee to whoop ass on a dirtbike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemical Castration Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 i once raced this cr500, it was funny as helli was riding slow (letting my bike warm up) when this dumb ass guy rides next to me, i was on my way to the hill, hes all nodding his head like he wants to race, i starting laughing, he yells come on man lets do it. i was like hold on i shift into 2nd gear nod back keep in miind we are cruising in 2nd gear about 1/2 throttle, i am still laughing and i say alrighty man on your move, he takes off i dumb the clutch, pull a good wheelie by the time i hit 3rd gear he was about 2 bikes back, i hit 4th another 2 bikes, and so on, i look back he is turning around i (being the smart ass i am) start waving at the guy and laughing even harder. it was great i have never been beat by a dirtbike. i raced a build cr250 on the street and layed into him by about 6 or so bikes. keep in mind mine's not stock but you get the point, mine still runs on gas by the way. so its pretty easy to build a banshee to whoop ass on a dirtbike. Thats awesome to hear MRMOONEY!! I'm dumping some cheese in my bike and my cousin wants to race me in his stock CR-500 when my project is finished. The only problem is that were gonna be racing on dirt and I'm gonna have a +4 swingarm and stock tires I have to beat him or else I'll never hear the end of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUK Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 keep in mind ninjadewd is like a big mofo ,and new to a banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamintwin02 Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 if i was u i would get toomey t5s v force reeds and a cool head theese mods will help your banshee out alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrider Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Keep in mind,mines not stock,but you get the point,mine still runs on gas by the way.So its pretty easy to build a banshee to whoop ass on a dirtbike. MrMooney,I have to disagree with you there buddy.I have a CR500 and a Banshee and I can tell you from experience that on an even start,you will get your ass handed to you by the 500.And your gonna need alot to beat a 250.So I wouldn't gloat about your half ass race. Your gonna need about 80-90 h.p to take a 500. Lefty,it all depends if your friend can "ride" By the time I set the front tire down,I'm shifting into fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 bud a guy your size needs alot more to go fast. a Banshee weighs about 400 pounds with gas and oil, you're 280, thats almost 700 pounds that thing has to get rolling. A dirt bike weigs alot less and the power in those things is just awesome. Oh, and I like the Heckler and Koch in your avitar. P7M8? Nice weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemical Castration Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Keep in mind,mines not stock,but you get the point,mine still runs on gas by the way.So its pretty easy to build a banshee to whoop ass on a dirtbike. MrMooney,I have to disagree with you there buddy.I have a CR500 and a Banshee and I can tell you from experience that on an even start,you will get your ass handed to you by the 500.And your gonna need alot to beat a 250.So I wouldn't gloat about your half ass race. Your gonna need about 80-90 h.p to take a 500. Lefty,it all depends if your friend can "ride" By the time I set the front tire down,I'm shifting into fourth. Were gonna be racing on a dry lake. He says that even though its dirt that you get alot of traction out there (almost as much as asphault) but I'm not 100% sure. My bike is gonna be on alchohol with a pretty agressive port job, and my bike is gonna be pretty light. My cousin is learning how to ride so thats my only advantage I feel im gonna have. But he told me that the area is huge and flat so we'll be WOT on 6th for a while. You think I can beat him if I run a 16 tooth up front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrider Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 I've beat alot of ported bikes,but none that were on alky.Your gonna need every bit of gearing you can get.My 500 tops out around 108-110 and it gets there in a hurry. I'll tell you what to do,race him 300ft,its the best chance you'll have to take a win. After 300ft its just a matter of how bad he wants to embarrass you. Those bikes stock put out 60 hp and 50ftlbs torque. Mine dynos 70 h.p and 53 ft lbs torque.That torque and the fact the bike weighs about 150 less than yours is the main factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMOONEY Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 disagree with me all you want to, i was there you were not. my bike is a drag bike you. with a full drag port. big carbs cpi's and all that jazz. i raced the 250 on the street, he had a port job and a pipe. not sure what was done to the cr500 but it was slow as hell. dude i have never lost to a dirt bike there slow sorry. bring your cr500 to oregon and ill race you too for PINK slips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrider Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 OOO!.. full drag port and CPI's,I've raced alot of guys who thought they were fast just like you. You've never lost to a dirtbike because you've never really raced one,Have you? I love to beat down guys like you.And I know your type,you'll just make some excuses up about your bike not running right. Banshees and Raptors are always quick to jump out there and get a beating.I've gotten more challenges on that bike than on my shee.People just want to see how they stack up against a 500. So go bullshit someone else.If all you got is a ported 350 or even a ported 420 on gas then take your sorry ass motor back to the engine shop and have them do some real work to it. What a friggen joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignasty1 Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 yeh those 500s aint phuckin around the least bit i have ridden a few and loved them they are bad ass in stock form and when they are modded in the least bit look out. i dont like gettin embarassed on my bike by them but hey it happens i aint out to be the fastest i just like having fun and loosen to a dirt bike doesnt make me feel like i am riding a slow piece of shit cuz i know my bike is quick i just know that even tho some of those bikes put out less power they still got a way bad ass weight to power ratio over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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