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#1 User is offline   turbo102

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:15 PM

I just got my first banshee yesterday, and I really like it. I tried to move it today and this is what happened.
I had to kick start it like 10 times, and I still did not get it started. I was told to try a compression test on it and I did (hopefully I did that right) and it came out around 70psi. After getting mad at the shee, I "bumped" started it, and it ran great. When I came to a stop and just let it idle, it idled fine, no gutless takeoffs or anything. I then called the guy I got it from and asked how to exactly start it, he said that if it doesnt start after 3-5x, then SHOOT ETHER IN IT! I know that that is not the way to start it. But anyway, I just don't know what I have to do to make the thing run better, mainly start up after the first kick. Oh and by the way, something is wrong with the kick start lever, it catches every now and then, like it will go all the way down without any tension. I know something is wrong there.
its a 96 banshee, and the guy I bought it from said it was rebuilt about 15 hours ago.

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1996 banshee: .030 over with Wiseco pistons, Boyesen reeds, T5 Toomey pipes and silencers with spark arrestors, K&N Filter (no air box), TORS eliminated, 12 tooth front sprocket, Monster Graphix Kit, Monster Racing seat.


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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:21 PM

yea that shee definatly needs a top end should be around 120ish on compression, definatly why its hard to start...and with the kick starter sounds like the internal gear has a few teeth knocked off?
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (oneill_1952 @ Jun 18 2009, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea that shee definatly needs a top end should be around 120ish on compression, definatly why its hard to start...and with the kick starter sounds like the internal gear has a few teeth knocked off?





hey thanks for the info, I had a bad feeling that I had to rebuild. But atleast I know what I need to do. I appreciate it!
1996 banshee: .030 over with Wiseco pistons, Boyesen reeds, T5 Toomey pipes and silencers with spark arrestors, K&N Filter (no air box), TORS eliminated, 12 tooth front sprocket, Monster Graphix Kit, Monster Racing seat.


2005 Raptor 350: Special Edition, 6 speed, FMF powerbomb header, FMF Q2 muffler with spark arrestor, Pro Design air filter (no air box).

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (turbo102 @ Jun 18 2009, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey thanks for the info, I had a bad feeling that I had to rebuild. But atleast I know what I need to do. I appreciate it!


Might not be the probelm. What brand of tester did you use? How many time did you kick when doing the test?
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:02 PM

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Might not be the probelm. What brand of tester did you use? How many time did you kick when doing the test?






I used a MATCO brand, I borrowed from a local mechanic. I also kicked probably 5-8 times, it makes it harder to kick when the lever sometimes just slams down and has no tension.
1996 banshee: .030 over with Wiseco pistons, Boyesen reeds, T5 Toomey pipes and silencers with spark arrestors, K&N Filter (no air box), TORS eliminated, 12 tooth front sprocket, Monster Graphix Kit, Monster Racing seat.


2005 Raptor 350: Special Edition, 6 speed, FMF powerbomb header, FMF Q2 muffler with spark arrestor, Pro Design air filter (no air box).

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:12 PM

Just save your money and if and when you pull the top end off look and see if they are ported. if they arent spent the extra $ and get the porting and new top end in one. That is if you have the money and want the banshee to rip...or get a new top end and hope that you dont have to mil the top but im guessing you will have to have it cut to a new size. Everyone likes Wiseco for their stuff. I have ran them in the past and have had great luck. I went with some Pro-x this time just to try them out and seems they work great...Now I just have to add a new crank due to a pin on the crank breaking off. But all in all list your mods... mostly I just want to know what you have done or have on the bike. And welcome to the banhsee world of never ending $$$ for power.

One ? for you on your compression testing. Did you hold the carbs open with the gas OFF and kick it tell the gauge stops moving?
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (turbo102 @ Jun 18 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used a MATCO brand, I borrowed from a local mechanic. I also kicked probably 5-8 times, it makes it harder to kick when the lever sometimes just slams down and has no tension.


You need to kick it some more times. Hold at WOT, then kick it till the tester stops.
I also like to test it when the engine is at running temp. Cold cylinders could give you different reading then hot cylinder.

Good luck, keep us posted.
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE (GrMeyer @ Jun 18 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just save your money and if and when you pull the top end off look and see if they are ported. if they arent spent the extra $ and get the porting and new top end in one. That is if you have the money and want the banshee to rip...or get a new top end and hope that you dont have to mil the top but im guessing you will have to have it cut to a new size. Everyone likes Wiseco for their stuff. I have ran them in the past and have had great luck. I went with some Pro-x this time just to try them out and seems they work great...Now I just have to add a new crank due to a pin on the crank breaking off. But all in all list your mods... mostly I just want to know what you have done or have on the bike. And welcome to the banhsee world of never ending $$$ for power.

One ? for you on your compression testing. Did you hold the carbs open with the gas OFF and kick it tell the gauge stops moving?





thanks for the helpful info, also, I did not hold the carbs open, and I dont really know if the gas was off, and I thought the gauge stopped moving, but I will try it tomorrow and see what happens. I was going to list my mods on my bike, but like I said earlier in my first message, I just bought it yesterday and other than what I saw or what the guy told me it had, I have no idea what else is on it(internally) of course.
1996 banshee: .030 over with Wiseco pistons, Boyesen reeds, T5 Toomey pipes and silencers with spark arrestors, K&N Filter (no air box), TORS eliminated, 12 tooth front sprocket, Monster Graphix Kit, Monster Racing seat.


2005 Raptor 350: Special Edition, 6 speed, FMF powerbomb header, FMF Q2 muffler with spark arrestor, Pro Design air filter (no air box).
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